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Juni 30, 2009


Distributing virtually boxed applications

flo blogged at http://www.marsmenschen.com/content/distributing-virtually-boxed-applications at Di, 30 Jun 2009 10:20:43

Our DebConf BoF titled "Distributing virtually boxed applications" has been scheduled!

We'll present a system to distribute virtualbox images. The system images are shared by all
users, immutable and updateable, and a small persistent virtual disk for the data is generated on the fly.

The BoF introduces this solution to anyone interested in getting from .vdi to .deb and invites you to join a
discussion about the pros and cons of this approach.

Feel free to ping me with any questions.

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Juni 28, 2009


Linuxtag 2009

blogged at http://blog.jefabeph.info/limux/34-linuxtag-2009 at So, 28 Jun 2009 19:08:03

Auch dieses Jahr waren wir wieder auf dem Linuxtag 2009 vom 24.06.bis 27.06.in Berlin vertreten. Auf einem Gemeinschaftsstand mit dem Auswärtigen Amt, dem BSI und der BIT präsentierten wir das Projekt LiMux.

Unser Stand auf dem Linuxtag 2009

Auf großes Interesse ist dabei unser Wollmux gestoßen. Verschiedene Behörde, öffentliche Einrichtungen aber auch Firmen haben uns in Gesprächen mitgeteilt, dass sie den Wollmux bereits getestet haben oder demnächst testen wollen. Der WollMux ist unter der European Union Public License (EUPL) lizensiert und kann vom Open Source Observatory and Repository der EU (OSOR) heruntergeladen werden.

Neben dem "normalen" Messegeschehen haben wir interessante Gespräche mit den Kollegen vom Auswärtigen Amt und vom Landesvermessungsamt Rheinland-Pfalz geführt. Dabei ging es vor allem um die gemeiname Lösung von Aufgabenstellungen wie z.B. die Vorkonfiguration von KDE-Desktops oder der Verteilung und Pflege von virtuellen Maschinen.

Juni 27, 2009


Berlin Open and Linuxtag 2009

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/06/berlin-open-and-linuxtag-2009/ at Sa, 27 Jun 2009 23:30:06

My comments after one week “openess” in Germany’s pulsating capital

First part of my programm was the new event “Berlin Open“, organised by a team of students lead by Prof. Lutterbeck of TU Berlin. Topic was “Open Innovation” and during the two conference days many talks by quite different people showed an impression of the very interesting aspects around “openess” - in mind, music, software, (geographical) data and research.

Germany’s secretary of state Schallbruch clearly commented that the Federal Government is not amused about what’s going on with document interoperability; a hint to Microsoft and their behaviour with OOXML in general (which was declined by his Ministry) and ODF interop as shown in Office 2007 SP2. And he announced that the user software for Germany’s new electronic ID (ePA) will be free software. Great, thank you fed gov!

Also a very interesting talk by Simon Hampton, Google’s lead of public policy in Brussels, about Google’s Openess with 4Cs. And many others… Just one more to mention. PhD Leonhard Dobusch talked about his studies of four different (non) migration projects in four Municipalities, Vienna, Frankfurt, Berlin and Munich. His conclusion: “Speaking as economist, I could tell you, what Munich is doing is real innovation”. Thank you, Leonhard!

To sum up this event: interesting speakers, quite good location, only few participants. Changes in concept neccessary, but only if repeated. Thanks to Prof Lutterbeck and his team. Good luck in retirement!

Let’s go on with the next event, Europe’s leading event on free software and business, the Linuxtag. From Wed to Sat our LiMux project was ready for sharing experiences in four different talks during the conference and at the booth together with our partners from Foreign Office, Federal Office for IT-Security and the Federal Open Source Competence Center, which also organised the booth; thanks for that. Besides general information about our project it was the WollMux people asked about, wanted to know more. Great. A clear todo for our office team to get some needed public improvements on presentation and documentation done, finally.

stand-linuxtag

(This photo shows our booth staff on the left, Matthias, Michael and Jens, thank you! - and our LiMux project manager Peter Hofmann togehter with Munich’s CIO Karl-Heinz Schneider, both visiting Linuxtag on thursday for some meetings with the fed gov and others)

Linuxtag again was an opportunity for strenghtening the network of governments using free software and talking about future plans. Thinking strategic, I’m sure it is the time for a real change now for public administrations - if we have the courage to think about what we will need not only tomorrow, but the day after tomorrow. Let’s do it, now!

I attended Jan Wildeboer’s (RedHat Open Source Evangelist) keynote at FUDCon, which was held together with Linuxtag for the first time. He is responsible for the world wide conspiracy against Microsoft, as he was told by a MS lobbyist in Brussels. He talked about the important role of open standards and explained the idea of twitter/facebook/… folks beeing the next open source programmers; so we shouldn’t ignore them. You can find him at identi.ca, for sure.

The DebConf 2011 could be in Germany and at the moment three german regions think about a nomination, Berlin, Rhein/Rhur and… Munich. So I (as non Debian developer) attended the first common meeting as the onliest one speaking for Munich. Where were the many Debian people from Munich?

Today I shortly visited the last day of Linuxtag and was quite disappointed about some exhibitors have already gone. E.g. the french people left behind a nearly empty booth and also some other business booths were “open space for free people”. Hm, strange.

To sum up Linuxtag: a lot of conference talks, great opportunities for networking, imho fewer visitors than last year at our booth and the Berlin Fairground trying to get too much money for every step they moved. Changes for future urgently needed, maybe change the location?

My final statement: Dear Berlin Open organizers, you’re doing a great job, but it is an absolute “must” to join Linuxtag next year. Not two independent events, one in common. And Linuxtag, thank you for all, but please decide if Messe Berlin is really the right partner for you… and not only for you, but also for the free software and open standards movement. Berlin is such a great location, maybe there are other places?

Thanks ;-)

Two events to be aware of:

  • Linuxtag 2010: June 9th until 12th, link
  • OpenOffice.org public administrations congress Germany: October 6th and 7th, link

Juni 16, 2009


ODFplugfest version 1.0 released

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/06/odfplugfest-version-10-released/ at Di, 16 Jun 2009 14:14:30

Two successful days for ODF interoperability

It happened in The Hague the last two days, probably you wouldn’t imagine before

Over 40 people working together, defining test scenarios, creating test documents, running many tests on different platforms and using plenty different ODF implementations - people from community driven projects like Abiword, KOffice, OpenOffice.org as well as software vendors like Google, IBM, Oracle, RedHat, SUN and - of course - Microsoft. And many other people interested in improving the level of OpenDocument Format interoperability.

Some initial talks pointed out the dutch strategy to achieve more openess. Secretary of state Frank Heemskerk explained that he will push the 3 Os, meaning Open Standards, Open Source and Open Content for the Netherlands. Ineke Schop and Fabrice Mous from the dutch governmental programm Netherlands in Open Connection (NOIV) showed how NOIV supports implementing this policy. Robert Weir (OASIS ODF TC chair) and Oliver-Rainer Wittmann explained the way to ODF 1.2 and the next versions on day II. And finally, Doug Mahugh from Microsoft’s interoperability team stated why documentation on every implemetation is important.

But the main topic was to do tests and to improve interoperability. This pic show the pleasant atmosphere offered by NOIV to the participants for a maximum of creativity.

photo

What exactly are the results?

Well, one of the most important things for me was the spirit to work together across all prejudices. Remember, free software developers and fulltime workers for big companies like Google, IBM, Oracle, RedHat, SUN and Microsoft sitting together to achieve better interoperability for ODF. Great.

We discussed the need for a function status overview for different ODF implementations in addition to a simple validator. What will be the best valid ODF file, if there are non interoperable functions? Won’t be real exchangeable. One to do for the future.

Many test scenarios were created and runned, so the people from implementors got ideas were to put hands on for improvement. There’s a lot to do, we wrapped-up in the end. It’s not only a matter of OpenOffice.org compared to Microsoft Office. To get real interoperability for e.g. citizens we should go ahead. ODF is an enabler of interoperability - now it’sup to implementors to do their homework until next meeting. We all agree that there should be perpetual plugfests. Maybe we could host one of the next in Germany?

My opinion:
A good start, a lot to do fixing concrete issues and also defining general principles, validators with functional analysis, all contributors are willing to do so, great.

Thanks a lot to NOiV.

For more information here we go:

Juni 06, 2009


Have you been lobbied?

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/06/you-have-been-lobbied/ at Sa, 06 Jun 2009 19:04:20

Home again after one week traveling at first to Budapest and then to Geneva. In the Hungarian capital I talked mainly to representatives of public administrations of this - in the sense of free software - rapid developing country. One current matter is how to do a procurement process and give free software a chance to participate. Well, I think this question is really answered by many other member states and they would have a closer look, e.g. to the Netherlands. Hopefully.

In Geneva I gave a presentation about LiMux at the linuxdays.ch, the biggest event in the french speaking part of Switzerland. Attendees were from private companies and public administrations as well.

One question I have been asked both times was: what was Microsoft’s reaction after loosing Munich? Did they try to step up the political pressure? Did they try to convince decision-makers to do the other way?

Well, I answered them like I always do, of course. The best is to be prepared that their lobbyist will come and visit everyone who can decide anything. Realising this helps, to see that’s just their way to sell products. Not to improve the failing points, but to convince anyone, that he needs useless new things.

But the intensity the questions were asked shows me, that there may be real problems. Also my last dispute with Wouter van Vugt (a non self-confessed Microsoft lobbyist) points this way. Maybe it’s time for a next penalty by the European Commission for them?

Mai 22, 2009


One step to Open Competition in Switzerland?

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/05/one-step-to-open-competition-in-switzerland/ at Fr, 22 Mai 2009 08:50:25

Interesting things are ongoing. You remember the rumors after realizing that Microsoft got a deal in Switzerland for 42 million CHF? Now RedHat and 18 other companies ask the court to decide wheter this was legal or not. I’m curious if the court follows the governments argumentation, that there is no sufficient alternative available for servers and clients. I think there are many examples showing the contrary.

Jan Wildeboer wrotes an interesting blog post about this. The title says everything: Asking Switzerland for more neutrality…


Is OOXML the better standard?

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/05/is-ooxml-the-better-standard/ at Fr, 22 Mai 2009 07:45:03

No, it is not in my opinion. But I think that is what Microsoft now tries to make us public authorities think. I know about the facts behind the scenes. I know that this company declines real support for ODF by doing something strange, not aiming at real interoperability, but at a Microsoft implementation of ODF, not compatible with others. So they, as worldwide market leader, can proof the insufficiency of ODF. And they have the solution for us. Use OOXML instead. It implements every function Microsoft Office does. And the next step is, that other interested implementations should improve their products to implement everything OOXML does. Really simple, isn’t it?

I fear that this argumentation (OOXML is the better standard) is very persuasive for all the public authorities who don’t know facts behind. They see that there’s a really open standard, everyone is talking about (ODF). And that everyone wants Microsoft to implement this standard, although they had an own “open” standard OOXML. Now they implement this unliked “alien” standard and nothing wents fine. So the conclusion seems to be consecutive, that the standard is the problem. If saved as OOXML (from Microsoft Office) everything is OK. They are the market leader worldwide and almost everyone uses their product (despite some dissidents). And then, Microsoft is again the leader on everything, Office products, exchange standards and so on.

It is the right time to rise up against this behavior. Again and again. They had not learnt the lesson. We need real interoperability, not controlled by one vendor, but discussed and implemented by many competitive products. Let’s discuss what action can be taken to get closer to real interoperability.

Mai 21, 2009


ODF != ODF ?

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/05/odf-odf/ at Do, 21 Mai 2009 20:48:53

Mai 19, 2009


Link collection about Microsoft’s fail to ODF in SP2

Florian Schießl blogged at http://www.floschi.info/2009/05/link-collection-about-microsofts-fail-to-odf-in-sp2/ at Di, 19 Mai 2009 19:22:03

Hi,

just a small collection for me, please feel free to add interesting links or ressources about this topic.

Rob Weir: Update on ODF spreadsheets

Rob Weir: Follow up on excel 2007 sp2s ODF

Rob Weir: Battle for ODF interoperability

Jeremy Allsion: In Office SP2, Microsoft manages to reduce interoperability

Jomar Silva: Microsoft now attempt to fragment ODF

ODF Alliance: Microsoft’s ODF support falls short, additional fact sheet

Microsoft (OOXML based): Document Interoperability Initiative Drives Development of New Tools

… to be continued!